Posts by Teary Oberon

Funny. I would have thought that these would have been included too...but I guess that Time is too PC to include any names that might upset the mainstream readers :/

Protestant leader Martin Luther, believed that the end would come in his day. He believed the Turkish war would be "the final wrath of God, in which the world will come to an end and Christ will come to destroy Gog and Magog and set free His own" and that "Christ has given a sign by which one can know when the Judgment Day is near. When the Turk will have an end, we can certainly predict that the Judgment must be at the door"

"1836 The end of the non-chronos, and of the many kings; the fulfilling of the word, and of the mystery of God; the repentance of the survivors in the great city; the end of the 'little time,' and of the three times and a half; the destruction of the east; the imprisonment of Satan."--John Wesley

“I sincerely believe that the Lord draweth nigh. We may have another year, maybe two years, to work for Jesus Christ, and, Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe it is all going to be over ... two years and it’s all going to be over.”--Billy Graham

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Curious: How Does 1 Tim 6:4 Appear in the Interlinear Greek (aka "purple bible")?

by DarioKehl in

we've all seen the line-by-line comparison of john 1:1 with the addition of "a god" when "was god" is visible in the left margin under "theos" in the infamous grimace/barney/grape crush purple bible book.

i'd check for myself, but unfortunately, i hastily rid my house of all things wt in a purging fit while beginning my fade.

and let me tell you, the fire was spectacular!

Teary Oberon

"4. Doting. "Doting" is the present participle of noseo (only here in the NT). Literally the verb means "to be sick." In classical Greek it was used metaphorically for mental illness. Thayer says that here it means "to be taken with such an interest in a thing as amounts to a disease, to have a morbid fondness for" (p.429). Arndt and Gingrich suggest the translation "have a morbid craving for" (cf. Goodspeed). White says of the person described here: "His disease is intellectual curiosity about trifles" (EGT, 4:141)." -- Word Meanings in the New Testament, by Ralph Earle.

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Help With an Elusive Rutherford Book?

by Teary Oberon in

i've managed to find scans of all of judge rutherford's 100+ page books (23 in total) except for one rather elusive title:.

"can the living talk with the dead?

" circa 1920 by judge rutherford (128 pages).

Teary Oberon

@Lily

Yeah, it is kind of weird. The 1991 list of Rutherford's publications doesn't list "Talking to the dead" at all, but it does include

1920 "Can the living talk with the dead" -- Lecture. Soft Cover. (128 pages)

Here is a picture of Talking to the dead as well. Notice that it is slightly different than the first pic that I linked to.

http://watchtowerbooksstore.com/images/talkdead46.jpg

http://watchtowerbooksstore.com/images/canliving51.jpg

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Help With an Elusive Rutherford Book?

by Teary Oberon in

i've managed to find scans of all of judge rutherford's 100+ page books (23 in total) except for one rather elusive title:.

"can the living talk with the dead?

" circa 1920 by judge rutherford (128 pages).

Teary Oberon

I've managed to find scans of all of Judge Rutherford's 100+ page books (23 in total) except for one rather elusive title:

"Can the Living Talk with the Dead?" circa 1920 by Judge Rutherford (128 pages)

Image: http://watchtowerbooksstore.com/images/canliving51.jpg

Does anybody know of an existing scan for this book? Because I've tried about 10 different archive sites myself and am just at a total loss :(

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KIT availability

by Joey Jo-Jo in

i have questions about this book:.

is it still able to be ordered at the counter?.

would this be a book that many people that are currently jw's aware of?.

Teary Oberon

"Teary would certainly be curious as to the reason-- why? what business is it of yours? (meaning the book guy) It is a wt publication and as such any jw (non jw's as well) should be able to get a hold of any wt publication without question, unless the wt has something to hide of course."

That can actually go both ways. Why would you overreact and impute ill motives to a simple and understandable question, especially if the person asking the question couldn't think of any practical reason why you would ever want a KIT? What do YOU have to hide?

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KIT availability

by Joey Jo-Jo in

i have questions about this book:.

is it still able to be ordered at the counter?.

would this be a book that many people that are currently jw's aware of?.

Teary Oberon

Teary has ordered around 3 of those in the past from the KH counter for various reasons (and what a beautiful little book it is!). They usually aren't in stock locally though (the Society can't be printing all of their books constantly after all), so you have to wait about 6 weeks on a special order (unless you just want use the one from the Hall library, since they usually have at least one).

The literature brothers also didn't ask any questions about it like Carla suggested. But then again, maybe that is just because they already knew that Teary was into that kind of stuff...but if Miss Average Witness who doesn't do hardly any serious study suddenly came up to Teary and requested a book like the KIT, then Teary would certainly be curious as to the reason. It's practical uses are a bit limited unless you have at least some working knowledge of Koine Greek after all.

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Should not those who protect "Mentally Diseased" be outraged?

by Greybeard in

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friends

so lets say we are "mentally diseased"... where is our protection from this hate speech and mental abuse?

there are all kinds of mental institutions around the world.

edit- maybe we should all go check ourselves in saying, "jehovah, the great physician has called us "mentally diseased apostates!

Teary Oberon

p.s. @Greybeard

Teary just now noticed something amusing with your original quotation of the article:

"Well, apostates are 'mentally diseased', and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings... Jehovah, the Great Physician" --GreyBeard's quoting

"Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician..." --full quote

Haha really?

1. You insert ellipses into your quote for the sole purpose of removing the Scriptural reference, so that it appears that the WT and the WT alone is making that statement out of thin air with no context.

2. You also deliberately change the double quotation marks to single quotation marks, which is just a further attempt to cover up the fact that the phrase is a direct quote from the Bible.

How do you expect anybody to take you seriously when you are so deceptive and unethical in your quoting?

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Download While You Can!

by Atlantis in

credit goes to anony mous=http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/215963/1/ready-to-leak-wikileaks-style=anony mous wrote:=hi,=i have a cache of documents that are direct from the branch.

they include letters, forms, videos, booklets, instructions on how to handle everything in kingdom hall locally and rbc's financially and otherwise.=includes the branch's instructions on how to write the local incorporations so that all assets go to watchtower inc. and in case that corporation doesn't exist anymore or is no longer tax free, to the governing body (that's what it says!).

i have them for all states but only going to include ny (since that's where they are located).

Teary Oberon

"Compare to the first post here:

http://www.jwtalk.net/forum/read.php?49,52983,page=2

Same translations in the same order.

Don't get me wrong, we're glad you're here!

Others may not look so favorably on it though.

Or do you think your faith is strong enough to go toe to toe with a bunch of apostates?"--sir82

Thank you sir82, for providing a practicle example of the lack of critical thinking skills and the tendency to jump to wild conclusions by the anti-Witness crowd here.

The info is the same, so that automatically means that the same person must have written it under different aliases? Silly.

Teary is a drafter by trade, and drafters are by nature lazy. Why draw the same thing over and over again from scratch when you can draw it once, pull the old drawing into your new drawings and then just tweek it slightly? Similarly, why waste time writing the same thing over and over again when you can just write it once and reuse it and tweek it when needed?

Teary has used that Scripture list on several sites. It is not unlikely that somebody simply liked it, copied it and used it for themselves (like on the link you provided). And in fact, the most likely option, since Teary already knows that he himself did not post the list there.